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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jun 15, 2010 8:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: DP 4 ... I wish they would redo it .

This was released early in the run, and I believe was the first to go 3 discs ... But ... I wish someday they would scrap together the stuff from "Bear's Choice", and this , plus the unreleased stuff , and put it out as a set .( maybe solve the "early show" problem , while they are at it ). Also , the remastering ,has made some big jumps, since this came out .
They have done this with the 1st 2 vault releases, but I wonder if we will ever see this .

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 17, 2010 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DP 4 ... I wish they would redo it .

I'd buy a 2/13-14 box in a heartbeat--especially since it would be HDCD if re-released now.

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Poster: tim_oz Date: Jun 15, 2010 2:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DP 4 ... I wish they would redo it .

I concur. I've felt this way about a number of releases that I wish would come out in more complete form and/or with new transfers from the masters. There is some precedent, as you say, with the Vault releases, and even the odd track here or there that has come out again - I believe the new Road Trips includes the Easy Wind previously released on the Fallout From The Phil Zone CD.

I've often thought the entire 2/11 - 2/14/70 run that is somewhat represented on DP4 would make a great addition to the complete box sets they've been doing. We have DP4, and yes, at least 2/13 and 2/14 are circulating complete and in fantastic quality (not sure about the completeness/quality of the circulating 2/11) but it would be nice to see this entire run officially enshrined.

Another one would be the Hundred Year Hall(HYH) CD. I think that may have been my first introduction to the Europe 72 tour, at least beyond the Europe 72 release itself, and it blew me away. I digress but that Truckin' has to be one of my favourites - the jam has some great peaks but the highlight of it for me is the way the entire band is completely in synch and locked into the groove yet issuing forth this complex multi-layered sound. I know you can say that about a lot of Dead jams but have a close listen and let it eat your mind. And now back to our regular programming - compare the sound on HYH to the sound on the Steppin' Out With The Grateful Dead(SOWTGD) release from the same tour. This is exactly what you're talking about Dudley Dead; the improvement a few years can make. SOWTGD sounds thick and has weight while retaining punch (at least that is how my ears hear it) while HYH has a much thinner sound. I keep dreaming of hearing HYH, and ideally a complete release of the entire show, in improved sound quality. Of course I won't even get into having the entire Europe tour...

Kind of in the same vein it would be great to see the rest of 9/3/67 and 3/18/67 come out. We got the 9/3 Viola Lee Blues on the expanded remaster of the first album, and the Midnight Hour (I know the date is possibly dubious as to whether this did occur on 9/3) on Phil Zone. Also the 3/18/67 Same Thing on the So Many Roads set. Whole shows would be a great addition to what is a majorly underrepresented year in terms of official releases. Admittedly there is not a lot available to release but what is available would be nice to have. Would love to hear if they can improve the sound on the circulating 9/3 Alligator. What a mind-bending lysergic version that one is! To me you can really hear the beginnings of what they would develop into in 68/69 around this time in 67. Earlier versions of Alligator are great but sound more like the band providing a groove for Garcia to soar over (love the Toronto version, 8/5 I think) but the 9/3 one you get a sense of the entire band leaping off the cliff....and collectively landing on a wave of energy that they ride the crest of for the entire jam. The Shrine shows would make a good set too. In fact they should really do a 1967 box, which could include all these shows along with 10/22 and whatever else they have from that year ie Monterey (audio and the video - not sure if there is a better source than what I've seen on Youtube.) I think the entirety of what is in the vault for that year could fit on 8 or 9 CDs.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples but they are a few that come to mind.



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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 16, 2010 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DP 4 ... I wish they would redo it .

I wouldn't rule out some sort of box somewhere down the line.